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Metanoia · Jul 30, 2006, 08:24 AM // 08:24

I'm not really sure how you can get so worked up over such things. Maybe it's just hard for me to empathize as I've just gotten used to it.
You see, I have a friend who is actually quite mature, smart, responsible and is on his way to becoming a doctor... but still finds it hilarious how people react when he starts humping them.

For his own sake, I really hope he doesn't become a pediatrician when he grows up. I doubt the parents would see the funny side...

Saix The Spartan · Jul 30, 2006, 10:15 AM // 10:15

Lol i went afk for like 1 minute with my Female ranger dancing in RA...When i got back i had like 10-15 Whammo's staring at me.. It was creepy>< I wish i could find that screeny!

Shanaeri Rynale · Jul 30, 2006, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Congrats emote is your friend, also goteam close to their crotch also acts as a deterrent.

BigBlue42 · Jul 31, 2006, 06:06 AM // 06:06

Worse then random people coming up and humping you is the idiots who mock you for being a male with a female character. The irony is that if they make such a big deal outta it, they are the ones who most likely have some issues. Anyway, my response is usually something along the lines of "hey, if i'm going to be playing a game for hundreds of hours, I don't wanna have to look at some big ass, ugly dude."

Lady Lozza · Jul 31, 2006, 10:14 AM // 10:14

Sorry for dragging this post off-topic.

I guess that I haven't been all that clear in what I'm trying to get accross, so let me try one last time.

I work in a male dominated industry. I CANNOT to wear skirts to work because the amount of trouble it cause could pontentially be career stopping. Men in the industry don't want to be reminded constantly that it doesn't take balls to do their job. I put up with this restriction because I have to play along. Failure to comply to industry expectations could potentially cost me my career. This does not mean that this is RIGHT.

When I go out on the weekend dressed in my LBD, I KNOW that I am going to receive as much (if not more) negative attention as I do positive. I go out anyway. I'm not naive, I know that these things happen, they even happen to me. This does not mean that this is RIGHT.

My point is this-
By saying, that's life, accept it - you are perpetuating the idea that this social behaviour is acceptable.
There is nothing to stop you checking out that pretty red-head. There is nothing wrong with it. What is WRONG, and can even be deemed as harrassment, is approaching uninvited and engaging in "hands on" techniques, or using verbal slander.

Certainly this does happen. Certainly we ladies do have to put up with it. But until it becomes frowned upon by society, women - like myself - are not going to stop protesting about such treatment. Hopefully the more men become aware of how unacceptable this behaviour is, the less socially acceptable it will become. We've come a long way since "liberation" some 60 years ago, but we still have some distance to go.

My personal suggestion, is that Anet implement a "bitch-slap" emote. I've always found it an excellent deterent to unwanted, unwarrented (even offensive) male attention.

jedi mad hatter · Jul 31, 2006, 10:31 AM // 10:31

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Originally Posted by zelira

Or start dancing in front of them with a male ele. There's your /kickinnuts emote.

This is just one of the many reasons why I love playing a male ele. Least of all is being the sexually-secure gentleman that I am and unnerving the wammos by giving them a taste of their own medicine. It's hilarious when I have to chase them down. Ah, defending a woman's honour has never been so much fun!

Xenrath · Jul 31, 2006, 10:59 AM // 10:59

Some of the posts in here are taking this way too seriously.

1) You simply can not make the link that behaviour online/anonymously is how people will and do behave in real life. Just because some male warrior character is "dancing" at some near naked elementalist does not translate to: that warrior's player is a rapist, that ele's player is a slut. You're very probably wrong on both counts (and the ele player is probably male anyway lol).

2) A debate on clothing and how men/women regard each other in the real world probably belongs in the off topic forum.

3) If it really bothers you and something offends you in game you're within the Rules of Conduct of the game to report it. Take screenshots and submit it to Anet (it's in the rules somewhere...)

Talon one · Jul 31, 2006, 02:57 PM // 14:57

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Originally Posted by Lady Lozza

There is nothing to stop you checking out that pretty red-head. There is nothing wrong with it. What is WRONG, and can even be deemed as harrassment, is approaching uninvited and engaging in "hands on" techniques, or using verbal slander.

Certainly this does happen. Certainly we ladies do have to put up with it. But until it becomes frowned upon by society, women - like myself - are not going to stop protesting about such treatment. Hopefully the more men become aware of how unacceptable this behaviour is, the less socially acceptable it will become. We've come a long way since "liberation" some 60 years ago, but we still have some distance to go.

a society like that would require everyone to be well educated, intelligent and happy. which is certainly a noble goal, but in my opinion not very realistic

you might as well shake your fist at the rain and demand that it doesnt touch you. or you could bring an umbrella.
i'm not trying to defend men, quite the contrary. but i think that men dont act like they do because society allows it, but because its part of human nature, and it takes a certain level of wisdom and self control to overcome.
and if anything, incidents like what happened to the original poster may help to educate a few ppl.

BigBlue42 · Jul 31, 2006, 05:53 PM // 17:53

My view is that you really shouldn't be allowed to complain when you wear something lowcut and some random guy tries to get his grope on. If ya don't want that kind of attention, stop dressing like that. Not saying it's ok for dudes to go around groping, I'm just saying you need to be more realistic, and stop acting like it's all the guys fault.

DeathandtheHealing · Jul 31, 2006, 07:34 PM // 19:34

its just a game ppl! remember lol
i'm a female gamer and i have 15k druids, just go afk in your gh if you scared of being ermmm...... raped?

seriously people should grow up though! thats sick.

Lady Lozza · Aug 02, 2006, 05:31 AM // 05:31

Quote:

a society like that would require everyone to be well educated, intelligent and happy. which is certainly a noble goal, but in my opinion not very realistic
you might as well shake your fist at the rain and demand that it doesnt touch you. or you could bring an umbrella.
i'm not trying to defend men, quite the contrary. but i think that men dont act like they do because society allows it, but because its part of human nature, and it takes a certain level of wisdom and self control to overcome.

Once upon a time the "educated" people of the world didn't think that women were rational enough to vote. The "educated" people of the world didn't think that a woman was capable of doing more that producing children, cooking, and cleaning.

Once upon a time the "educated" people of the world thought that those with darker skin were inferior beings. The "educated" people of the world thought they were evil, that they weren't capable of "real" thought.

Yet both these things are NOT the reality of today. The "educated" people now know that such "ideas" are a bunch of BS.

Point: The "educated" people have the largest influence on society's views.
Point: It takes a LONG time to change the world.
Point: [sacasm]Until we have a support group, that spends several centuries shaking their fists at the rain demanding that it fall where we want it to, we really don't know whether it will/will not work.[/sarcasm]

Quote:

My view is that you really shouldn't be allowed to complain when you wear something lowcut and some random guy tries to get his grope on. If ya don't want that kind of attention, stop dressing like that. Not saying it's ok for dudes to go around groping, I'm just saying you need to be more realistic, and stop acting like it's all the guys fault.

Zomg, it was all her fault, she was wearing a short skirt, she MADE me rape her.

Oh please, do you have any idea how ridiculous this sounds? Not the guy's fault? Since when did we become responsible for another adult's actions? Are you suggesting that women are telepathic, and we are secretly sending men messages, asking them to grope us?

As adults we are 100% responsible for our OWN actions. If a guys ties to grope me, he is responsible for HIS groping. If I kick him in the balls, well I'm responsible for kicking him in the balls.

Point: Groping is unjustified - unless invited - no matter what a girl is wearing.
Point: Kicking a guy in the nuts is considered defensive, and fully justified in cases of unwarrented harrassment.

Quote:

its just a game ppl! remember lol
i'm a female gamer and i have 15k druids, just go afk in your gh if you scared of being ermmm...... raped?

seriously people should grow up though! thats sick.

If you took the time to read this whole topic, the discussion went off-topic a little while back when someone suggested that girls (irl and ig) wearing very little in the way of clothing derserved whatever was coming to them.

Sciros Darkblade · Aug 02, 2006, 05:48 AM // 05:48

Wammoed lol that's great.

My warrior has been wammoed occasionally. Yes, *that* is how studly he looks. And you better believe it. ^_^

I gotta find me a gamer lady sometime... well one that doesn't play WoW instead of GW that is, arrrrg... >_>

Sometimes I walk around wearing really short shorts in the hopes that it will invite some very warranted groping. Not by dudes though, well maybe if they look like my studly warrior then it's ok.

AJM · Aug 02, 2006, 06:03 AM // 06:03

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Originally Posted by Doug Clifton

Here's what you do.

If you find yourslelf getting Wammolested grab a morally decent warrior and have him wammolest them back. I do it all the time to those horny wammos, gets rid of em pretty quickly

Haha! I've done that too! The 'wammolestation' victim is usually quite amused. The bad wammos are so sexually insecure, they just freak out...

Anyway, ladies, I agree that it is NOT acceptable for men to act like horny apes and try to grope, molest or harrass you. I agree that you SHOULD be able to dress however you want without having to deal with this. But I must reiterate: until people are polite and decent enough to stop behaving like that, you will have to face it. If you kick the guy in the balls, more power to you, he deserves it. But the situations that would make you want to kick a man in the balls will occasionally arise. Wearing skimpy clothing will likely cause this to happen more often.

I don't like it, you don't like it... decent human beings don't like it, and it is not acceptable behavior in any way, shape, or form. But you will have to deal with it sometimes. By that, I don't mean accept it. Quite the opposite in fact. I hope you teach bastards like that a lesson.

On a lighter note, my brother plays female chars, and when he gets wammoed, he tells them "my vagina has razor-sharp teeth". This works every time. Most of those bad wammos are frightened of a woman (or what they think is a woman) who can make a comment like that. In fact, that image could frighten even sexually secure men. It would scare me if I didn't find it so hilarious to watch those bad wammos scurry away like roaches.

darrylhaines · Aug 02, 2006, 08:04 AM // 08:04

Are you guys that surprised that this type of stuff goes on?

You do know that lots of kids play the game and are more than likely to screw about don't you.

Just ignore them ffs.